I have heard many in R&S say that the Old Testament is not as reliable as the New Testament…to those who think this…what about how Jesus quoted from the Old Testament?
In John 6:25-59 Jesus says that it wasn’t Moses who gave the bread in the desert but God who did so, then He goes on to say that everyone who listens to the Father and learns from Him will be brought to Him (Jesus), then he goes on to say that He is the bread of life…
Moses was given the bread in the desert (some of the Old Testament was written by Moses – see John 5:46), but Jesus says it came from God and not Moses In John 6.
Isn’t the bread another term for Jesus? and John refers to Jesus as the “word” – so then the bread is the Word given to Moses in the desert?
I would interpret this scripture (John 6:25-59) to mean that the Old Testament is about Jesus…and when I read the stories of the Old Testament symbolically they do take on a similar meaning for me. I see similarities with Jonah, Samson, etc….all symbolically seem like what Jesus would go through explained in the New Testament – names and circumstances different but the underlying meaning extremely similar to what happened in the life of Jesus. (ex: Jonah 3 days in the belly of the whale before being spit out (Jesus raised after 3 days), etc. – I could go on and on but only one example here)
In the desert they were given bread from heaven…symbolically they were given Jesus….they were given the Word. In John it says in the begining was the Word and the Word was made flesh (Jesus). Jesus is the Word…the Old Testament symbolically explains Jesus…throughout.
Remember that Moses placed a portion of the manna (Word) in the Ark of the Covenant (Hebrews 9:4)- we know these as the 10 commandments…and the 10 commandments are contained in the Old Testament, Exodus 20. Therefore I take this to mean that the Old Testament given to Moses in the desert came from God….in John 5:46 Jesus clearly says that Moses wrote of him. Therefore, the Torah (the five books of Moses), Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy are of God, Jesus said so in John 6. We also know that Jesus quoted Psalm, Malachi, Zachariah, and Jeremiah, also books in the Old Testament.
Does anyone else see that the Old Testament is validated in the New Testament by Jesus in the book of John?
I have seen atheists post on here saying how the OT is horrible and says horrible things, etc. and that God is not a loving God in the OT, when I see some Christians answer they may say that the OT was written by man and not all of it is valid…I disagree with this. I believe that it is valid and so is the NT…I believe that the entire OT spoke of Jesus…just not giving his name and exact circumstances. I believe that the OT should be taken symbolically. I also believe that the Hebrew meanings of names of towns and people should be considered when reading the OT in order to get the full meaning…
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The Old Testament is 100% valid and 100% true, since it too is the Word of God.
It’s just that, we’re not under the law of the OT (as Acts, Romans, Galatians, Ephesians, Colossians, 1 Timothy, Titus, Hebrews, and many other places explain).
The OT does show us the fulfilled Messianic prophecies, because Jesus is the Messiah. The OT does show us the ways people interacted personally with the Lord. The OT does have future prophecies about the world. The OT has history so we know how things originated and happened.
We’re just not to be under OT law. The OT shows us that NOBODY can be saved by the law. And the NT says do not add ANY of the law or works to salvation, otherwise, you have a false gospel that cannot save you (Galatians 1:6-9).
The truth is that salvation is a FREE GIFT that happens in a split second when you believe in Jesus alone to save you! It is impossible to lose or “leave” salvation (John 6:39-40, 1 John 5:13).
The truth about Jesus is that the only way to be saved and to get into heaven and avoid being sent to eternal hell, is by believing in faith alone that Jesus, who is God, died for our sins on the cross as FULL PAYMENT for all our sins, and then Jesus rose from the dead (1 Corinthians 15:1-4). Believe this and you will be in heaven, no matter what!
I am sorry but as I am Jewish I don’t understand this. How can the “NT” be right but the OT be wrong?
I don’t believe in the NT and certainly that clouds my answer but don’t Christians use both and consider the “OT” (the Torah) part of their Bible? How could they think the first is not as valid as the second and still believe the second.
I am not trying to be rude but I was confused by the question. I will watch what other people answer. I have never thought or knew some people thought this so it is interesting.
I don’t agree with the person above me but certainly I always thought his explaination was Christianity. I am confused that it would be anything else.
Cheers.
The Old Testament is still completely valid. If it were not Jesus would ot have quoted from it. The O.T. was the scripture of His day.
I have never heard a Christian say that it is not as reliable as the N.T. What you have probably heard people say is that some things said in the O.T. were said to Jews and applied to Jews. That does not make it unreliable but it SOMETIMES makes certain parts non-applicable.
Applicable and reliable are not the same thing at all.